listings hackmeeting discussed part of the Church and the relationship between hacking and politics. Rarely speak ... but then I told my ... I summarize what I have said, to see whether in this context, someone, even a passer, has something to say. The fact is that I have little time and then I just paste ..... ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Hacking and politics are inscindibili...dove per politica non bisogna intendere destra e sinistra, aspirare al potere, al governo...distruggere il potere o il governo.
Hacking non è sinistra e non è destra, non è rosso e non è nero...e ciononostante ha molto a che fare con la politica...in pratica...con la polis e tutti coloro che ne fanno parte, con l'agire all'interno della polis.
L'hacking manipola mezzi e strumenti assai delicati...In mani sbagliate sarebbe il caos e la perdita di molte libertà.
L'hacking è un mezzo e in quanto tale può essere utilizzato per vari fini.... L'hacking non è solo "sicurezza", come vuol far credere Chiesa, ma è anche l'esatto opposto...riguarda la gestione delle informazioni e dei mezzi to spread ... It 's a subject that has always been dear to the worst fascist too ... You can not speak of this medium without the problem of end ports ... ports without the problem of improper use fascist means. This is politics ... this is to be political! This does not mean to be a communist, red or frikkettoni. It means having learned from a piece of sad history ...
You can not talk about hacking without talking about politics and not to mention ethics and ethics always has to do with the behavior of individuals, the relationship between individuals, within society and the polis.
Hacking has to do with the information, freedom of communication and sharing. If the information the operating
in a few (as some would like) to go back to a sad past "political" (actually not too ).... past Hacking free information, distributes and this is itself a political act ... I am agree when you say a hacker does not need to rally anti-fascist banner ... but only because the original spirit of hacking (and not merely as a hacking tool) can not be fascist in nature and thus underline in red letters is redundant .... It 's like saying ... I repeat ... that "water is liquid."
The fascist nature, true, hackmeeting comes out, moreover, in my view, the arguments that are addressed within the event .... and especially the How are ... What happens in the event hacking is real and true ... TAZ actions ... not theories .... Everything else, what happens outside or on the walls of a building, you have seen, already digested, already loved, already hated .... old ... old .... to the point that even the so-called "cops" if they bump ... A fascist interested
no freedom, sharing and open access to resources and knowledge ... But if one was attracted fascist dall'hackmeeting (What is really strange), and then questions from loved ones for years at the event ... I do not see why ... I wonder what prevented from entering the hackmeeting not produce a fascist less and this would be a great victory ... Hacking transforms society and we hope he does well .... so I do not see a different way! The alternative would be the "soprressione" but we all agree that would be a fascist, no! The closure preventive or preemptive action are fascists! The history (the recent) teaches us. Obvious then that the fascists or communists or Qualcunque who beat and break the balls and not only .... no one wants them ... I think! But the one who takes up bill!
Church ... so ... he said things that even those who hangs out in or around you is saying for years ... This does not mean, however, that the Church is right!
a) Make a list of all the events they took part because it has a pocket full ... events which may take the only party who's got pockets full ... really has nothing to do with hacking but only with a pocket full ...... and even has to do with the "knowledge accessible to a few" ... that is, only those who are able and can afford it ... I do not think this has something to do with the true hacker spirit .... even from a historical perspective ...
b) to judge an event by a banner and a gate knocked down ... this is very simplistic ... and snub what is discussed within and presumptuous ... Many who went
Hackmeeting not share that banner and even the choice of striking deal .. but they are there and are giving their contribution ... What you're talking about Hackmeeting has nothing to do with red and white, right and left ... It has to do with the hacking and hacking in itself raises many policy issues .... I do not think that this is not the Church know ... The limit
hackmeeting perhaps lies in how and what to communicate outside the common people, beyond what the event is and does communicate to the people .... What? how to communicate it? What inspires in people? tones, which often takes are the right ones?
Personally I respect the Church for many things he did and many of his testimony / articles really interesting ... the Church is part of the history of hacking Italian ... someone does not like ... but who cares! But the worst thing I wrote in my view, is this ... although it is enormously helpful. Ok sobering, but the tone is bad ... ... But maybe this .... when we wanted him to last year has categorically said NO to the proposal to invite Raoul Chiesa Hackmeeting Neapolitan ... without making the rest of the good reasons ... alas ... democratic and anti-fascist ....
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